Holy Spirit Healing: How the Lord Can Set You Free, with Mimi Kroger

welcome back to another episode of Christian Natural Health today I'm excited to have Mimi Kroger with us Mimi

is a powerful health and weight loss coach with a heart for helping others heal through biblical principles after

healing from an eating disorder body image issues lupus and other life traumas with God's help Mimi started

healthy happy and Heavenly to guide her clients to health and wholeness rooted in a relationship with the Holy Spirit

her mission is to bring others into the same Freedom she's received through faith-based coaching nutritional

guidance and discovering the root causes of emotions as a best-selling author speaker nationally certified personal

trainer nutrition guide and behavior change specialist Mimi empowers her clients to become the healthiest

versions of themselves mind body and spirit Mimi is a mom to an awesome adult son and she resides in Colorado with her

loving husband Ben they have one tenacious Yorkie named hugs welcome Mimi thanks so much for joining us thanks

Lauren for having me I'm excited to be here that was a mouthful it was a mouthful yeah it's not a lot that's

amazing so tell tell us your story so what was your history of what God worked

you through in terms of like your trauma and the weight loss that kind of ensued after that yeah so when I was 19 I

really started coming into body image issues and a lot I know that it was

directly related to a trauma that I had endured and so only because literally it

all started right at that time and I didn't make the connection back then

um but I later discovered that that was really the root cause and I feel like it

is super important to get to the root causes of you know what's going on like

if we're overeating or we're not eating enough or you know or we're shopping or

you know any addiction things like that things that we know that when we're just not in peace to kind of really take it

seriously and God he came Jesus came that we would be set free he wants us

free and so making sure that we connect with the Holy Spirit who I always say

he's been with us through every footstep of our lives and so he knows how to heal the hurts that came from them and that

there really is often a connection between what we're doing with food or money or relationships and what's

occurred in our lives and that he is our healer and he is more than happy to give

us the answers that we need as we seek him absolutely so first place to start is

having that vibrant relationship with the holy spirit so like let's say I hear a lot of Believers saying that they they

can't really hear the Lord's voice how do you start to establish that connection and to recognize that it's

him when when you hear him well the first of all I always say you know in

the beginning was the word the word was with God and the Word was God right that's in in the Book of John and so I

always say that he has plenty of words to share with us so a lot of it and

really anything in the kingdom of God is by faith and so what I do with my

clients I do Behavior change coaching sessions and really their inner healing sessions but I professionally I also

have a behavior change um specialist certificate but what I do is I just kind of clear the atmosphere

you know I kind of make sure that um everything is nice and clear and and people can do this themselves in their

home I just invite Jesus and since he is Holy and he is light I always say that

where there is light Darkness can't dwell and so I just kind of you know put that out there and I take authority that

Christ has given us and just have the Lord just really rebuke anything that's

not out of him and just really make sure that everything's nice and and peaceful and then from there

um Thanksgiving you know the Bible says that we enter his Gates through Thanksgiving and so

um I usually just put myself if I'm just doing it just with me just put myself in

a place of real gratitude even if it's um just a warm cup of coffee or a walk

it doesn't have to be anything big and or I might ask the Holy Spirit like Lord remind me of something that will will

bring me joy and that honors you and then he'll bring a memory or something

and it could be something from the past and then just begin a dialogue like the Bible says in in Psalm 27 4 that he

wants us to inquire in his Temple so if you can't and and really like it's a

relationship just like any other but better because he's perfect so Lauren if you and I were like sitting on the couch

and I wasn't asking you any any questions like how are you going to respond you know and so oftentimes I

think people are just like talking to God they're telling them all their stuff but they don't actually take that moment

to listen but even in addition to like consecrated time like this in prayer

with the Lord where he Comforts us he guides us you know the holy spirit is called our Advocate or all of those

things um he's always available and willing to do that but just to know that he is constantly speaking to us throughout our

day and throughout our circumstances and so just being I always I call them

Heavenly kisses and so I just wake up in the morning I'm like Lord I just invite you to just give me those heavenly

kisses today and just surprise me and he always does so we have to put our faith on it I love that I love that so as you

say it's so much about believing that God is going to respond and then looking for it and recognizing it when he does

respond in that way instead of just being blind to it and going through the motions absolutely absolutely at knowing

that it's an act of faith everything in the kingdom is by faith and then

um making sure that you're asking questions so that God has something to to tell you you know specific like he's

a very specific God you can ask him specific questions so when Jesus

um when he was talking to the disciples and he was telling them you know I'm going to go but I'm gonna send the Holy

Spirit and he said that it would be better right and so we're his disciples now and what he meant by that was now

you know Jesus was only available when he was with them but now with the Holy

Spirit we have availability a direct line of communication with the father that is constant and it's 24 7. so

that's exciting and and we should tap into that because he has all of our answers absolutely so the verse that

pops into my head is from James that says that he he gives wisdom without with without repent like the second we

we ask for it he's going to give us all of the wisdom that we need without rebuking us or anything else yes

liberally it says I love that like just lavishly you know yeah so um bringing

that down into the idea of like releasing past traumas and things like that can you tell us what some of that

looked like for you and you had that open line of communication with the Holy Spirit what kinds of things did you ask

and what did he impart to you that set you free yeah you know I'll share I'll share

something you know maybe I'll share the one that was directly related with the the lupus so I had at 19 years old I had

been diagnosed with lupus and and this trauma that I went through the Lord really

um ministered to me through even the situation that came about as a result of

all of that of even having the lupus and oftentimes I'll say that what God is

speaking to us in the natural like in our circumstances oftentimes or through

people whatever it is that he's speaking to us that it actually correlates with a

spiritual matter and so with lupus my body was attacking itself so I had an

autoimmune disease lupus and so when and I don't have it anymore so I've been

healed of that and you know doctor said that there's no healing for that and they'll often tell you that with autoimmune disease and

um for me thankfully that wasn't the case but for many years I believe the

word of God I had all of the scriptures memorized you bless the Lord O my soul and forget not all his benefits who

forgives all our iniquities and heals all of our diseases like I knew it was a package deal I knew that Christ's blood

was enough and so um when I wasn't getting my healing I was like what is

going on what I didn't know was this whole idea of getting a Rhema word so

the word of God if you look at it in the original language it's translated word

of God as logos or Rhema and and there's other words too you know the

translations there's so many words that can represent one English word but the

logos is like the written word of God the actual Pages it's Jesus God is the word right

um but the Rhema is a word from the Lord that the spirit breathes life on and it

imp attacks your heart and so oftentimes like for me I wasn't getting healed because I had this mental Ascent that

yes um healing Is Mine by his stripes I was healed past tense why isn't it happening

but what I needed was a Rhema right the the the the True Believers will worship

the father in spirit and in truth so we need both and so through

um what had happened to me um it was something that happened that was um sexual in nature and it was

unexpected um I I didn't realize the impact that it would have and

um as I was asking the Lord um I had went through a divorce years

later and I asked the Lord I said Lord you know what what is what is wrong like

why and why am I in this place where I just am having this attack on my body

and what he showed me me was that I had a lot of self-hatred really there was a

lot of self-blame for what had happened to me um when the incident happened the person

told me well you said it was okay um and so it you know I took that as

well well I did give permission but I didn't really know what I was giving permission to and so

um the Lord just showed me that I had a lot of just rejecting myself and again

how that that there what was happening in the natural was really indicative of

what was going on in my heart and I didn't even know it until he brought me that Revelation and then even through

circumstances this is what I love about God is that just as you know in Joseph

in Genesis it says that what the enemy meant for evil that God you know would

turn it around for the saving of many lives and that you know God works all things together for good so he he is he

is perfect Holiness so he's not the author of these horrible things that happen but he can certainly use it for

our good and so the lupus culminated in kidney failure and both of my kidneys

um went out and so um I went into dialysis and at that time

um I ended up needing a kidney and so my mother-in-law's I I was remarried now my

mother-in-law um put a post on social media saying that I needed a kidney and all of these

people responded and I was like you know what like people from high school and

college I mean just like Woodworks you know even elementary school and all of these people were willing to give me an

organ like what and so what the Lord showed me through that was and what he

taught me was I had long known that he could be trusted like I didn't blame him for anything I I just really loved God

even like as a little girl and so I knew that he could be trusted but I didn't

really know that people could be trusted and so it restored that in me and this

idea that like oh my gosh I have value like people want me around like and so

he uses every situation to bring us into Revelation like for the first time I got

the Revelation that God God could be trusted yes absolutely I knew that but

people could be trusted too and so that just really led me and if you think

about an overactive immune system after that trauma I was in overload all the

time like my immune system was constantly running because I had this fear

um that was just really internal if you ask me like on the outside I I didn't

even acknowledge it but it was deep down within and so I often say that sometimes

it's layers so it was the self-hatred and it was also

um this fear of other people hurting me people that are supposed to love me and

and then this idea that I wasn't safe and so my body was reacting in like and

so that was like a big Revelation you know um but I've had other you know smaller

things um like in relation to to eating um one time I was just asking the Lord like

even after a ton of like inner healing and just walking with the Lord I said

Lord you know why is that I can't remember what the situation was but I I just knew that I just did still felt

like I wasn't enough I was like what is it Lord why is it that I'm feeling that like I'm not enough or that there isn't

enough and he brought to my memory uh something that was just long forgotten

um I was a little girl and I was in a family member's home there was like this

party and we were outside having like a a picnic type thing and the owner of the

home opened up a mango split it open and um and I apparently I had never had

mango before I don't think but I just loved it and I took a piece and I started just you know eating it and just

playing like kids do um with my cousins and other kids and then I went back for another piece and

when I went back the person sin that had opened up the mango said what are you

doing that's for everybody and this and I hadn't remembered this at all but in this time with the Lord he

brought this to me and then in that very moment I saw myself like that little

girl with pigtails like braids sitting at a picnic table with Jesus and he was

smiling so big and we were having tea like these little plastic tea sets of plastic picnic table and his knees were

coming up like over the table right like you know like Jesus comes to our level

and so um and so he's looking at me and just and we're having tea and then all

of a sudden he takes the slice of mango out from behind his robe and he hands it to me and then he hands me another one

and another one and in that moment like that was a Rhema like it just spoke to

me like hey I do deserve mango like hey I am worthy of it like Jesus is like and

there's more than enough and so the important thing is and this is why doing

inner healing Behavior change coaching is important with someone that is

knowledgeable in Scripture that knows the word is that it does have to have to line up with the word of God and so God

calls himself Jehovah Jireh right he is provider he calls himself El Shaddai

which means god almighty and the literal translation of that is he's the all

breasty one and it's a picture of a mother who gives sustenance to her baby

and so what that speaks to is if you if you've ever breastfed you know that when

your baby cries the moment that your baby cries you're ready to give that

sustenance and in fact it even hurts if you can't give it and I believe that that's how God is with us that he wants

to give us the sustenance the truth that we need you shall know the truth and the truth will set you free so that that we

can feel well he is so interested in our joy in John 10 10 it says you know the

enemy comes to steal kill and destroy but I came that you would have and enjoy your life and have it in abundance into

the full until it overflows that's the Amplified version and I love that

because it shows that he also wants to work through us so that the healing that

we've received we can pass along to other people it'll overflow unto others

and and then Joy comes and so um it's not I always like to say too that God

doesn't just heal us because he wants to to use us I always say he he knows that

when we are at using the giftings that he's given us and and speaking to his

glory and testifying to his goodness that it makes us feel good and that then

other people are blessed by that and so I just sometimes you know people think that God is kind of like a task master

and he's not he just wants us to to serve him because we get to not because

we have to or not because you know we're trying to gain our healing through it or anything like that it's all about just

him directly as you were talking I was reminded of this principle and naturopathic medicine that says the body

weeps tears that the eyes cannot shed yeah the idea of how if you suppress

something that you you're not directly addressing and working through it's going to turn into a physical ailment

somewhere so that's amazing that just little by little it was like he was peeling off the layers for you to

recognize all of these past areas of trauma and even relatively small ones

from childhood that had exactly he cares yeah about even just that I

love it yeah and that was my point in in kind of sharing both stories is that it

doesn't have to be like this big traumatic thing like when we're little anything is Big to us at the time and we

can create belief systems that we don't even know we're creating and then what

happens is then throughout life other things happen you write that kind of like solidify that false truth that

false belief system and so we need to continually renew our minds to the logos

the word of God and and to know the character of God is so important you

know to know that he is walking through through all of our situations with us

and that his ultimate goal is to bring goodness it is for the saving of many

lives it is to work all things together for good um so that he is glorified and so that

we get to live a productive life because you know in in what you do when you

don't feel well you can't do what you've been called to do you just don't feel like it and so having our body our

temple in a place that is well in spirit and soul and in body is so important

it's important for our joy and it's important for our calling and for our destiny which also brings us joy it's

like this full circle thing so speaking of Destiny so a lot of what you do we

were talking before we started before we recorded about what the way that you help your clients to kind of reverse the

mindset around trying to lose weight so tell us a little bit about your philosophy on that and maybe your own

personal Journey yeah absolutely so I came from a background of having an

eating disorder as a result of that trauma that happened to me um I kind of and even there were other

traumas beforehand I had um just a lot of really harsh discipline

um growing up um my parents are Spanish and Italian and like literally

immigrants off the boat and there's just a different cultural ideal for how to

discipline children they love me um but that's just how things are or

were at least in our home as a result of some cultural beliefs and so that also

you know caused me to have a little bit of you know rejection a lot a bit of rejection I should say

um and and self-hatred also just thinking gosh like gosh I can just never measure up or if I make a little mistake

I'm you know there's like these con the horrible consequences you know and so

um that that led me to I ended up with an eating disorder just I had a lot of

Shame also and again things in the natural you know kind of imitating

what's going on in the spiritual I believe I I was anorexic at times and bulimic at other times and so I believe

that as I was you know throwing up was like I was trying to get rid of Shame

well we know that that doesn't work right Jesus he takes it and it's a free gift and and we can just go to him and

and receive that Divine exchange that he has for us that it talks about in Isaiah 61 or Isaiah 53 you know all of our

sorrows like you were talking about the Weeping and the tears that there's this Great Exchange that the Lord has for us

that he takes upon himself our griefs and our sorrows but we do need to process those things right um there's a

great book um that says that um emotions buried alive never die

um and or even you know that the body keeps the score you know kind of all of what we do

um but as far as dieting um I've noticed and so I kind of got on this spiral of dieting and you know and

then finally the Lord was like do you want to be free it was like you know how he asked the person in the Bible you

know do you do you want to be well and it was like yeah God I was just like tired of me you know what I mean like I

was tired of the struggle and um I had tried so many things

um to be free and finally it was like Hey I can help you and I was like okay and so then the Lord he just began to

give me a Biblical perspective on why diets don't work and really it's based

on Romans 5 6 7 and 8. um but um a lot of other scriptures as

well and it's just basically the idea of what is a diet except the law and how

the Bible talks about that when you're under the law you're no longer under grace

um and it says that if you're under the law you're under a curse and then our answer really to that and the idea

behind that too is the Bible also says that the law increases sin it increases

the desire for sin which if you put that just in a applicable perspective if I

tell you you can never have bread then all you think about is bread right

totally right and then instead of just having like one slice or two you end up having like the whole loaf right because

you've you've said you cannot have it right and it's just that that flesh that

human nature but we have our answer so Paul talks about it in Romans 7 where he

says gosh the very thing that I don't want to do is the thing that I do and then he says who will deliver me from

this body of death and then in verse 25 this is Romans chapter seven it says oh

thanks be to God through Jesus Christ Our Lord and so our Lord right when

Jesus Christ is our Lord and what does Jesus give us he gives us the holy spirit so I really teach people how to

be led by the Holy Spirit Even in our eating and drinking um and when I say that

the truth is is the Bible I found this in the Bible it there's a lot of yes and

right so yes um you know we're righteous and we have

to work out our Salvation right we have to submit to God right um but even so when I say that in terms

of dieting the truth is is the another scripture two scriptures actually say

that all things are permissible for me right we're free we're free from the law all things are permissible for me but

not all things are profitable all things are permissible for me but I will not be Mastered by anything and it says that

the law is good and so oftentimes people are perishing for lack of knowledge you

know there is and and this is where I'm versed in nutrition that we need certain

combinations of food to make sure that we're physiologically getting what we need and so I can't I love What the Lord

Has Done because he's had me kind of put together just all I call it like the whole enchilada not to use like a food

term but it really is the whole enchilada because once I I give you these guidelines on what is good making

sure that we're not depleting our body of entire food groups that God has given us because we need them uh I won't go

into all the nutrition part of that but it's just a lot of common sense you know if we're not getting our carbs we're not

getting our vitamin C we're not getting our serotonin levels so which can be disrupting our sleep all of the things

right fats you know we need them for brain function back in the 80s it was like no fat low fat right and so um

there's just it's always like in every generation there's always something and then getting out of balance like now

it's like too much fat right and in First Peter in the Amplified version the

Bible says be well balanced for the enemy roams around like a roaring lion

seeking someone who he might devour and I was on the other side Spectrum as well

like super clean eating everything organic all of that and that's also not

balanced you know anytime we get into striving um you know it's just not it's not good

for us and I can go into all that but I want to get to get to the end of this so once I make sure that physiological

needs are met um because our body is gonna get what it needs so you you can't really like will

power your body it's just not gonna work your body will get what it needs and so

um and if it doesn't then you're gonna get sick that's that's just how it is and so um once I know that that's met if

we're still having eating issues then I go into Behavior change coaching to kind of figure out like are there you know

are we eating for Comfort emotional reasons um what are the roots of that taking them into an inner healing type session

where we really seek the Lord and I've never had a behavior change session that is the same as another I mean we're so

different our lives are different and God Holy Spirit just knows how to pinpoint exactly what people need to set

them free because he wants them free more than they want to be free he really does and part of it too is also teaching

um teaching on righteousness and knowing who you are in Christ and just the various things that people need learning

how to hear the voice of God for themselves um so that you know I always talk about

that the Lord has teaching moments for us so like when if your son is like seven and he tells his first lie that's

a teaching moment right then and there and that I'm not available all the time but the holy spirit is it's just like

what Jesus was talking about with the disciples right and I don't necessarily I I definitely don't want people

um to feel like they can't do this themselves and so then I give them an audiobook version of my book or a

paperback version that teaches them my my book is called Holy Spirit help me

heal overcoming disease and dysfunction through Spirit connection and soul healing and it's just really a guide on

how to connect with the Holy Spirit nourish your soul through that connection and heal physical disease as

well as emotional dis-ease that often causes disease yeah but that's beautiful and I love

what you were saying about the fact that the idea of restricting yourself too much isn't the way a lot of times

there's there's so many diets out there and people will ask me which one do I think is the best between this that and the other that's restricting various

things and honestly my answer is always eat food God made that is yes like

that's exactly what I tell my clients if God made it you can eat it and I do help them like make it so that with these are

just things that the Lord has shown me and what I've learned nutritionally that there are really certain combinations

that we can make that keep our insulin levels in check so that we're not like you know overeating you know things like

that so there's definitely things that we learn from the world and even biblically like I have a a PDF that I

give out um that says um the I think it's like the nine superfoods of the Bible and so

there are really you know things that we can do that we know you know we need knowledge as well

um but yeah to have to be out of balance it's it's misery you know I if my son is

like my son is he's an adult now he's graduated college but when he was a kid

like if he was there making like chocolate chip cookies you better believe I'm gonna have a chocolate chip

cookie with him you know what I mean that's what my I've like taste and see that the Lord is good

um and there's no reason like there were feast days in the Bible you know um so there's no reason to live in in

bondage it's really just it's a life that is so restrictive and just not

joyful and that's I mean my company is called healthy happy and Heavenly like

really I'm I'm serious about this Joy thing because I think God is serious about the joy thing and and it includes

food absolutely it does I love it and I'm sure a lot of people will be very glad to hear that as well yes Lauren can

I share a scripture with you this was like Revelation I love this scripture so this is for those people that are maybe

into a deprivation diet right now when I say deprivation diet I'm talking about

um you know eliminating an entire food group that God gave us because we need

it um and and so let me read this because this is something the Lord pointed out and I was like oh my gosh I love this is

the Rhema right take this in because this is a Rhema it's Jeremiah 31 11-14

I'll just read a portion of it but it says for the Lord has ransomed Jacob and has redeemed him from hands too strong

for him they shall come and sing aloud on the height of Zion and they shall be

radiant over the goodness of the Lord over the grain the wine and the oil and

over the young of the flock and the herd their life shall be like a watered garden and they shall languish no more

then shall the young women rejoice in the dance and the young men and the old shall be merry I will turn their

mourning into Joy I will Comfort them I will give them gladness for sorrow I will Feast the soul of the priests we're

the priests now with abundance and my people shall be satisfied with my goodness declares the Lord so what I

love about that is it's literally equating food with joy right you see that in the dancing in the radiant over

the goodness of the Lord but here here's the part that has to do with deprivation dieting it says radiant over the

goodness of the Lord over the grain we're talking carbs over the wine I mean

we even get a little bit of wine over the oil which is fats and over the young of the flock which is protein the

younger block of the herd so it is including all of the food groups and

when the Lord brought that to me I was like I put that so I have a an e-book that I give my clients that's called

diets don't work there's a different way to permanently lose weight and it's kind of part of this package that I give out

and it's just all biblical and that's like my finale at the end you know like

because it's just the Lord you know and he is he's our manufacturer he knows

exactly what we need spiritually emotionally physically and so I'm always

I'm all about nutrition and even you know I believe that God gives gives us

wisdom right and so I kind of like put the two together and make sure that it's

in alignment with scripture absolutely I love so what have I not

asked you that you want to make sure you leave with our audience oh my God

I don't know I'm such a talker I hope I didn't talk too much

um please just ask me any anything else that you would you would have yeah

that's all question I just want to make sure that I didn't leave anything important on the table you know what let

me say this because I think this is super important um when it comes to

receiving from the Lord um we need to come to him from a place of peace and this actually even has to

do with El Shaddai again so that you notice that he's called the all-brusty

one right if you're a mother giving sustenance to your baby and your baby's just like crying and just you know just

going out of you know out being out of sorts they can't latch on they can't

receive what God has for them right and and it what we what we have for them as

mothers but this equates to how we can't receive from God when we're not as in a

place of rest and that even we see that in be anxious for nothing but in everything by prayer and petition with

Thanksgiving make your request known to God and the peace of God which transcends understanding will guard your

heart and your mind in Christ Jesus right that we actually he's inviting us to put our cares to him so that we can

come into a place of Peace so that we can then receive from him and so the reason I'm talking about this is because

I don't want people to get to a place where they go on a digging Expedition

for their healing whether it be physical or emotional like inner healing I mean

that can be misery in itself and it's dis-ease which causes disease so to know

that God knows exactly what you need when you need it and he is going to you

know when I do my coaching and oftentimes it's layers there's layers of things and God knows what you can handle

knowing all of the circumstances in your life knowing your workload knowing all

of that and he's going to give you the exact amount that you need and so I just

always want to put people in a place of rest and a place of hope that that God has your answer and that he is he is not

ignoring you he is he is just being gentle with you and giving you exactly what you need when you need it and there

is a part that we play We Should partner with God and ask him what small thing we

can do get direction from him and then as the Bible says submit to God resist

the devil and he will flee so this this whole thing about obedience and just

really putting yourself surrendering it all to God not getting obsessive about okay now I'm gonna do all this and and

then I'll say something else about dieting too um oftentimes you know God may use

something for a a short amount of time um you know I'm not saying that all

dieting is you know horrible you should never you know but life is a lot sweeter

when we're doing what Jeremiah 31 11-14 says and it's just it's a lot there's

just Freedom there and where there's Freedom there's joy I love it so where can people go to find

more about you yeah they can just go to my website it's healthy happy and heavenly.com there's a

contact um there's actually some free resources on there there's a portion guide right when they hop on the website

um they can put their information there if they go to my book section um there's actually a free bonus chapter to my book

um so they can read all about that and in that I actually talk a little bit about the trauma that I didn't get into

details with you today but I get into really a lot of the details in that chapter

to that in the show notes and thank you so much for all of your wisdom and insight Mimi this has been fantastic ah

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