Dr Peter Kozlowski: "Get the Func Out"

welcome back to another episode of Christian Natural Health today I'm very excited to have Dr Peter Peter Kozlowski

Dr Kaz with us Dr Kaz uses a broad array of tools to find the source of the

body's dysfunction he takes the time to listen to his patients and plots their history on a timeline considering what

makes them unique and co-creating with them at truly individualized care plan currently he works with patients online

and in person via his Chicago Illinois and Bozeman montana-based offices Dr Kozlowski did his residency in family

practice but started training in functional medicine as an intern he trained in the clinics with leaders in

his field including Dr Mark Hyman Dr Deepak Chopra and Dr Susan Bloom he is the author of get the funk out and

unfunk your gut welcome Dr Koz thanks so much for joining us thank you so much for having me it's an honor

absolutely so I love the way you practice it's exactly the way I do so let's launch into some of like the

obstacles to cure that kind of keep people from getting better um like the link between hormones and

toxins for example is the example like what is that connection why do a lot of people not know about this

that's a great question um so as you know and and

or at least for me the way that I approach it when I look for the underlying cause of disease there's five

main areas that I say that I look for the underlying root cause of disease and they are food

gut health hormone imbalances environmental toxins and mental emotional spiritual health

and in my first book unfunk your gut I talked about diet gut health and mental

emotional spiritual health and so I I never really kind of envisioned writing a second book but

then um I felt like when I started thinking about it I had unfinished business and I

was like well there's two areas I haven't written about and they are hormones and toxins and

hormonal imbalances um I would argue that basically every patient that comes through my office has

some kind of hormonal imbalance that we can get into the different ones but I can usually find at least one

um and usually more than one but for people are always asking why right

they come to me for the why like well why are my that's great that you figured out my hormones are imbalanced my

regular doctor couldn't do it well but like why are they imbalanced now and my

argument in this new book um is is that a major reason why is is

our toxic environment and so when I say toxins I mean toxins could be classified

basically that's anything that um is foreign to our bodies but when I

talk about and I for me in both of my books I really try to focus on the high-yield stuff I mean there there's

probably a billion or more toxins that we can talk about but I really try to

focus on clinically what I've seen over the years really make a difference in people's lives so what I mean when I'm

treating people for toxicity the most common toxicity that I find is

uh heavy metals lead and Mercury being the most common the second one is uh

mold toxicity from mold mycotoxins um and then I then I kind of call it the

all the other stuff um I would say one that's nationally catching a lot of attention

um is glyphosate um which is uh comes from Roundup it's an herbicide that the national media is

saying that they found an 80 of urine samples I find it in close to a hundred percent

um and then there's again continuing on with all the other

stuff and and so it's what's in Plastics what's uh on your clothes after you take

them to the dry cleaner one that I'm finding a lot that people don't realize is uh organophosphate flame retardants

so they cover all your furniture and Flame retardants and I'm finding that in people's urine

um I quote a study that um they found over 80 different chemicals or toxins in memory foam

mattresses and that's where you're sleeping and should be restoring

um I in the introduction of my book I go through my wife's morning routine of

just going to bed and getting up and having breakfast and playing with our dogs and the average woman is exposed to

over 100 toxins before leaving the house and so that's Bath and Beauty Products

it's your hair straightener it's the hair straightening liquids it's um mascara and lipstick and all all of

that it's the almond milk that we use to make our smoothie it's the plastic that our dog toys are made from it's the air

that we're breathing when we go outside [Music] um so we're

under this Onslaught which is a lot greater than it used to be right I mean

the one consistency that we have is that they're introducing more and more of these toxins into our environment and

then you know they're telling us that at you know low levels they're safe and

that that seems to be how the powers that be keep getting away with this as well well like well at this level this

is fine and so a major way that I look at toxicity

um because just coming from the traditional medical background like

um they hate this stuff they they completely like bash it and and

um so the argument or what I was taught in functional medicine is to think of it as

your total toxic body burden and an analogy that I've used

um which I think I took from Dr Hyman is is that we're all born with a bucket and basically it's not just the

glyphosate that is in your body or or the chemicals from your mattress it's

the lead plus the Mercury plus the mold plus the glyphosate plus the sibo and

the dysbiosis and the candida and the your diet and then the stress and all of

that leads to like my analogy is is that basically when your bucket overflows it

presents as disease and the overwhelming majority of us don't

know the worst I mean there's a lot of bad things about toxins but I'd say probably the worst is is like you don't

know that the water you're drinking is full of of lead or you don't know that the fish that you're eating is full of

mercury you don't feel it a lot of people with a mold toxicity don't feel like hey I I have this symptom so that

means it's mold it's no it's like I go to my doctor and I've been diagnosed with lupus or Hashimoto's or uh estrogen

dominance or low testosterone um and they have no clue why but it's

like well for 70 years or 30 years or five years I've been filling my bucket

and that bucket has overflowed now into disease and so

the that's when I'm talking about toxins um that's kind of what I'm talking about

some of the major ones and there's four systems I would argue that are most

affected by toxins um and the the one that I focus on in this book is the the hormone system

um and so hormones in my opinion are very affected by toxins um cardiovascular system uh in in the

book I go over a patient who was on three blood pressure meds and in a

little over a year we got all the lead out of his body and he's now on no blood pressure meds

um anybody with immune dysfunction so the immune system is very affected by toxins

um and the nervous system so uh working with uh families of autistic children or

children of parents with dementia and and everything in between um those are the four systems that I've

found to be the most affected but at the end of the day when our bodies build up

with toxins um all of our cells are affected and and so the mechanism is is that the toxins

are fat soluble and we can get into detox and what that is but

um they all of our cells are surrounded by Fats so those toxins can get stored in that fat and then they start creating

cell death they cause the mitochondria to die and eventually the cells die and

then that leads to imbalances um so that

the when I was training um Dr Susan Blum uh who wrote a great

book on thyroid Health she she was a thyroid expert she was a Hashimoto's person herself

um she taught me to think of the thyroid as a sponge for toxins

and um so the just thinking about it like

let's say that my body's been accumulating a bunch of lead and mercury and mold and glyphosate and it's getting

stored in my thyroid and then I'm one day diagnosed with Hashimoto's disease

and I go to my doctor and they're like I have no clue why you know it's just happening it happens to a lot of people

um your immune system has identified your thyroid as an Invader so it's attacking it well

you can make the argument without if these toxins are getting stored in the thyroid then it kind of makes sense that

your immune system is attacking it it's actually trying to do its job which is not really helping you

um but it's in theory it's really doing the right thing by trying to get rid of this toxic thyroid

kind of a trojan horse yeah right yeah absolutely so um in your practice how do

you go about identifying what are the toxins that are affecting a particular person

so history um you know listening to what what somebody does for a living where they've

lived um with mold my screening question is

always you I learned very quickly that you can ask someone have you been exposed to

mold um they'll pretty much always say no um

the screening question that I've learned is is that have do you live in or work

in or have you ever lived in or worked in a building which had water damage

um in in because of the way mold grows basically water equals molt

and so that's what I've learned as a screening question so mold is something that I don't test everybody for

um I I try to focus on people that have you know that usually they they don't know that there was mold but they know

that there was water um the really interesting thing that I

found is is that I've worked with a number of people over the years that are like well I live in a

brand new construction I have not had any water but when I was a kid my

parents basement used to flood all the time and we test them and they still have huge levels of mycotoxins in their

body um and so mold is something that I again I

just test people that I sound like they have an exposure history or some if we're just desperate and we're looking

for answers we'll run it if somebody wants to but um heavy metals my argument is is that

everybody should be tested out of all my functional medicine Labs that that I can

order whether it's stool testing organic acid testing sibo testing toxins

hormones if I could just pick one test for anybody for a person that I didn't know anything about I would personally

pick heavy metals because I'm finding heavy metals in the majority of my

patients and nobody had I mean basically nobody has

an exposure history the only exposure history that I'm really seeing consistent is

um people that work in like mechanics so like the highest levels of lead I've

ever seen is is a uh and a mechanic from O'Hare Airport

um he uh a normal lead level is one and I use we could talk about the type of

testing I use I'll treat anybody that that hits around eight or nine his level was 140.

um geez so that and then the the patient

that I wrote about in my book he was a truck driver um and so a lot of exposure the error

um but otherwise um an interesting uh couple that I had was I had a couple

um they were in their 60s and they tested at the same time and he the

husband had grown up in Nigeria and the woman had grown up in Chicago and we all

thought the three of us that he would test super positive because there's not like the Environmental Protection in

Nigeria as there supposedly is here and he tested completely negative and

she came back through the roof um just growing up in Chicago

um so there's that's the one thing that that um

I I like I said I would test everybody for and I I would start that testing

um when women come to me for like pre-pregnancy planning that's the first thing that I'll do because

heavy metals or any toxins can cross the placenta so our exposure starts before we're even

born if mom had high levels and I would argue that that testing of heavy metals

should start from the age of like three or five because when I do find lead or Mercury in

someone they're like well when did it get here and all I can tell you is is whether it's

coming in now and how much is in there but I I without

you know a history of testing I have no clue when it got there but people always

want to know so I would test everybody for heavy metals

um and glyphosate has now for me crossed into that category of I test everybody I

recommend everybody should be tested because I just not even like maybe two weeks ago I had a person who's really

been focused on eating organic for five six years now and and she came back

with a huge glyphosate level really yeah and do you have any idea where it came

from was she like using Roundup or something um I mean it The Organic Farms can be

right next door to non-organic farms and and you hear Farmers saying that hey

like this is seeping into my soil you know and it's getting into my crops

um I think one that people don't really realize is is cotton is one of the most

sprayed crops and so we're wearing it and and you can absorb it through your

skin through your clothes um so yeah I mean it's it's

everywhere like they've used it for so long uncontrolled without you know with

just telling everybody that it's safe that um I think it's just kind of become

ingrained in our in our soil and so it's in our food so um glyphosate is something that I

test um the other toxins and I pretty much all of these I'm doing urine testing but

um so for like the ER we can test more herbicides we can test the organophosphates we can taste test the

Plastics um that's another one that I could argue that everybody should be tested for you

know if we're talking about preventative health or um trying to figure out the root cause

of disease um this stuff is just so prevalent that I I personally think it makes sense I

mean and then if you test negative or once you detox then to me in my opinion if you don't have new exposure that buys

you you know a few years of testing right um but if somebody hasn't done it and

they they're trying to learn about their health I mean you know what I was taught you know as a family practice doctor is

basically like your yearly CMP and CBC like these most basic

blood tests that are totally useless and maybe a TSH um that's not I don't know that's not what

I'm doing and that's not what I think we should be doing as a um Healthcare Society is like we should

be looking for this stuff that's underlying exactly absolutely makes sense so um you talked a little bit

about thyroid what are some of the other ways that your hormones can be disrupted by all of these toxins

so the biggest hormone imbalances that I find number one the most common is thyroid disease and it is Hashimoto's

um and then the other ones are not necessarily in order but just my top five are the thyroid

the adrenal glands um which I think are more affected by

our mental emotional spiritual health but toxins aren't going to help any of that so adrenal glands

foreign the pancreas and Insulin um I don't see many blood sugar issues

um personally in my practice most of people that are coming to me have like been pretty strict already with their

diet um but if I was in a traditional Family Practice office I I mean it pretty much

100 of my patients would have blood sugar issues so that I I do write about

that because it is a really big deal especially with the whole covid situation and the risks of of blood

sugar and covid um and then it's the reproductive hormones so for men uh testosterone and

for women uh estrogen dominance and and estrogen progesterone imbalances so

those are kind of my my top five that I see the most frequently and that's where

I stay out of those five if I if I don't find anything in any of

them I can usually find some adrenal gland in balance that that's where I say that

um you know pretty much everybody that comes through my practice I can find some kind of hormonal imbalance sure

yeah definitely makes sense so um somebody's somebody's listening and thinking oh my gosh the world is a toxic

soup what do I do so what are some top steps that you can give to kind of you

know at least decrease ongoing exposure for the people who are listening so in the last chapter of the book I go

through basically how to like clean up the house um I I would say the best resource is uh

ewg.org the environmental working group so a lot of people have heard of The

Dirty Dozen which are known as the the 12 fruits and vegetables which are the

most toxic um so people have seen that list but a lot of people don't realize it comes

from ewg.org the environmental working group so that's a non-profit that's basically doing the work and studying

these toxins and they are putting out new resources like all the time and so

you can go on ewg.org and type in your deodorant your

um makeup your hair products um and you can get toxicity ratings

um on your the stuff that you're using so ewg is is a really awesome free

resource for people to start looking at like hey what this daily stuff that I'm

touching and eating and drinking and using what what what should I get rid of

[Music] um but I'd like to keep things basic and it's

it can be as simple as peeing pooping and sweating amen yes so

um I like to you know detox what when we talk about all these toxins we've talked

about they're fat soluble like I said which means they're stored in our fat so our primary detox organs are our skin

our lungs and our gut because those are the physical barriers preventing these

toxins from getting in right and so but when those toxins cross right so if you

have a leaky gut if your lungs aren't healthy or if they're just too much exposure your skin the toxins get

through they're now in your body and so they'll get stored in your cells but

lucky for us the first place that the body sends those toxins is to the liver which people most know of as the detox

organ that's kind of the most famous detox organ deliver what it does is through what's

called phase one and phase two detox makes those fat soluble toxins water

soluble and once they're water soluble they're sent to the gut and through the

kidneys and we poop them out pee them out and sweat them out

so that's why peeing pooping sweating is really the key to detox right if you

don't have access to this testing you can keep it very basic because if you're not moving your bowels every

day that the stool that's being created is sitting there and for most of us it's

full of bile which is full of toxins and so that if we if we're not excreting

every day then we're going to be reabsorbent right right if we're not drinking enough water and we're not

peeing we're we're not going to be flushing that out and that stuff's going to be reabsorbed and then sweating is is

a is another way where we can help excrete those toxins so for somebody

that's worried and like what can I do that that would be the most basic stuff

is drink half your body weight in ounces so if you're 160 pounds 80 ounces of

water a day if you're not moving your bowels every day unfunk your gut as I

would say um and and you know get your gut right

first um if you're trying to detox um and then figure out uh uh what kind

of exercise routine works for you right um I talk in the book um quite a bit about infrared sauna

infrared saunas is one of my primary tools for detoxing mold

um but that's something that you can do to sweat if you're not exercising

um so those those are three things that somebody could do that will help you

detox yeah awesome and I've actually noticed I'm wondering if you found the same thing that a lot of my patients

that say they don't sweat very well tend to be more toxic because totally obviously one of the main ways to

eliminate so whenever I hear people tell me that I you know teach them to train their body to sweat you can just you

know listen to it and sit in the sauna for five minutes and get out if your body says get out but the next day sit

there six and the next two sit there seven and then after about three four weeks your body figures it out and you

actually start sweating pretty well and then you can actually open that a monthly and now we can really begin to

detox you so absolutely I love it that's great totally agree when I when I see in someone's history that they're not

sweating then I'm really thinking toxins up for sure so is there such a thing as

hormone balance like what can we shoot uh that's a funny question

um yeah I guess so um I I do I like to do everything

objectively so I I run Labs I I don't like to guess I say that's where I'm

lucky and my job is is I like to show tests so with the thyroid

um you know we can look at the range of your TSH your free T4 your free T3

and argue that then we can get your thyroid optimal

um whether that's naturally or through the use of thyroid medicine or thyroid replacement so

one thing I I always like to say is I I don't like to just rely on Labs so to me

it also depends on the symptoms like if your thyroid is in range but you're

still having symptoms we're going to keep working on it um because maybe you need to be at the higher end of the range

um the adrenal glands I like to use saliva testing um

for cortisol and I have seen many patients that you know when we start uh

their cortisol curve is very imbalanced and then through work on the mental

emotional spiritual part we see a more balanced cortisol curve

um with insulin you can definitely just through diet get your insulin optimized

which will optimize your blood sugar um with testosterone that's my own story

that I talk about in my book is I I have low testosterone I was diagnosed very young

um and for me that requires either supplements medication or testosterone

replacement so I have not been able to get my testosterone up naturally

um but I can get it in an optimal range through the use of different tools and

then with women with like estrogen imbalances um I use progesterone replacement

um and so I I'm personally you know there's there's a spectrum in in the medical

world of traditional medicine doctor totally alternative medicine right there's a right you've you interview

people all the time so we're all on a different Spectrum so I I fall closer to the middle of

traditional and alternative in regards to like I'm not like if your thyroid's low or if your testosterone is low or if

your progesterone is super low I'm not against hormone replacement if

it's going to you know if we've tried to balance your hormones naturally and we

can't I I don't have a problem personally with a hormone replacement if it's not doing

any harm you know that if there's something out there and a lot of them are now bioidentical which means

biologically identical to our what our bodies should be making it's a lot of that toxicity has gone from them

um I'm not opposed to to using hormone replacement a lot of patients that come to me are

you know totally anti-any kind of medication and

um but it could be difficult I mean when the the I know from my own low testosterone like it there there's not a

lot I can do besides take either a medication or a testosterone replacement to bring it up

and what is your like what do you conclude about that do you feel like there was just some toxic exposure when you were young that probably caused

irreparable damage is that kind of how you you assume that that happened uh so

I'm in recovery um uh uh recovering alcoholic so I had

many years of binge drinking which came brought many years of stress

so my adrenal glands were shot um and then I found pretty uh

significant levels of lead in my body that I don't know how long they were there

um it I think it's a combination of those factors

um you know and it's unfortunately when it comes to all of this like I can find lead in your body I can find

mold in your body I could find glyphosate in your body I could find low testosterone I can find low thyroid but

I can't run a test to prove you know hey it was the lead that caused the thyroid

or it was the mold that caused the Low T um we're we're kind we're doing

correlation right of you know well hey this stuff shouldn't be in my body hey I

know this stuff can get stored in my hormone producing glands and it causes cell death so maybe the combination of

all these things ruined your testosterone production and and and I there can be a genetic

component too you know so I I in regular medicine they're obsessed

with kind of like this equals that right like all right if you have this then you

have diabetes if you have this you have high blood pressure in my experience it's that bucket analogy it's a little

bit of this a little bit of that a little bit of this and then next thing you know there's a problem an imbalanced

hormone that definitely makes sense so you've alluded a couple of times to the mental emotional spiritual component affecting

the adrenals can you give us a little bit of an overview of how you approach that with a patient in terms of trying

to get that back into balance yeah so there's a screening question on so when a patient comes to see me they

fill out 40 pages of intake paperwork before the visit yeah wow

can I go through that all before the visit um yeah

um but there's a question I always look at first and it's the first there's two

questions are back to back and it says do you have too much stress yes or no and can you handle it easily

yes or no somebody answers no I don't have too

much stress and yes I manage it easily that's what I know that their adrenaline

fans are in trouble wait okay expand on that what do you mean what do you mean

what do you mean yeah they're they're basically saying like I mean I especially over the last three years I

think we all have too much stress but I I mean I thought that even before the pandemic started but

um so I don't believe anybody that thinks that they don't have too much stress personally and I've been wrong

there's been I think one or two people that proved me wrong on this but and

that's over a lot 10 years of doing this um and I don't believe it's easy to manage I I

don't I I don't know I mean like I said one or two people are they legitimately they proved me wrong

um a very interesting non-official thing that I I mean I've seen not it's not

it's a I do studies in my practice I I mean I just like but it's more in my head I remember and

so what I've found and I love to do adrenal gland testing um

is the more that someone tells me that they're stressed out so if someone's

telling me like hey like I'm going through this I'm going through that and it's like you you hear it all and you're like wow their their cortisol is going

to come back through the roof these people are testing normal or close

to normal and the more that someone tells me no no everything's fine I I'm

my marriage is good my kids are good my job's okay like everything's fine the

more imbalance they come back there's stuffing basically yeah

so um I came you know

the mental emotional spiritual part when you train in functional medicine they

have this thing called The Matrix that it's all these different things that we look at like the stuff we've been

talking about like the gut health and the mitochondria and the toxins and all of that but at the center of it is the

mental emotional spiritual health right and and most practitioners you know patients forget that part and

but even most practitioners forget that part um and for me I can't forget that part

being in recovery um so that part of it with my own life experience is was very present and me

being a perfectionist I when I started practicing

I mean I I've had been very blessed with a lot of success with a lot of patients but I would only focus on the people

that weren't getting better and and that's all I thought of that's all I think about like that's just

perfectionism is is tough it's a gift and a curse but so I would focus on you

know what you know these people that aren't getting better what what's the overlying theme and from this kind of

came together how my first book came together on good health because I I was

taught in functional medicine start with the gut start with the gut start with the gut start with the gut that that is

that's just what we're ingrained um and so that's what I would do and I

would you know catch candida I would catch sibo I would catch dysbiosis low

stomach acid and and these conditions and [Music] I would give people the same treatment

plan and in some people it would work and some people it wouldn't and so I was like what what's going on

here and and I started realizing more and more that the peace that was missing

in those people where it wasn't working was the mental emotional spiritual side and so in unfunk your gut I get into

that whole gut brain connection and and how the sympathetic nervous system

affects the gut and stops the gut from working um and so when we're constantly stressed

out in that fight or flight response our our gut doesn't work and

furthermore the gut will never heal doesn't matter the amount of supplements you take so a lot of people that come to

me want to get out of the traditional medical system but then they come to me and they're like well just figure out

the right diet or figure out the right supplements and you know I'll be fine

and that's not like the the mental emotional spiritual part is the most

important part um and you can't and in this book I get into it in the adrenal gland chapter and

and even in detox I mean you won't detox as well you shut down your detox capacity

from from constantly being in sympathetic overdrive so um

how do I get people to work on it most people don't

yeah most people um shut down don't come back

um don't want to hear it deny it or will like

you know be like yeah yeah I'll work on it and then they'll just order supplements

um so it's but that's where the magic happens I mean that that that's like

sibo is the most common condition that I treat um and I wrote the chapter on that in

the first book and but a question for you know sibo is very difficult to treat I'd argue it's one of

the most difficult things to treat and I've been pretty lucky but um it's the men when people are like okay

I'm Healed or you know it's gone how do I make sure it doesn't come back and my

answer is always focus on your mental emotional spiritual health and that'll keep your gut healthy obviously like try

to stay off of antibiotics and and you know keep a Clean Diet but that stuff's easy compared to you know and again most

people are just like well I don't want to hear that oh my God so yeah

I'm a little more blessed in my practice in the sense that like I might I advertise that I'm Christian a lot of

the people that come to me come because uh they either are Christian or they're spiritually open so I can have that

conversation with them they're usually a little bit more open to it but the people that don't identify with that with any sort of spirituality I hear you

that is very very difficult and the people even if they they do have a spiritual practice if they're

emotionally suppressed like what you described some of the only techniques that seem to

work for my patient population is Homeopathy sometimes that if you get it right it'll open things up and then

they'll begin to be able to you know come up and they'll be be able to process it but I always explain like

when you take the right homeopathic remedy it's like opening a door but it's up to you whether you walk through it or not they can shut it back down if they

want to so if you get them to that place I've noticed and they're willing but

yeah if they're not that's tough that's really really tough for sure but it's huge

I mean and being in recovery like I don't judge I know how difficult it is

like um one of my therapists over the years said like change is as easy as like

ripping off your own skin or peeling off your own skin um and my I I went to like uh a

semi-in-patient treatment for six weeks um and that was the first time I ever

been in like therapy and and I literally was stomping my feet in my first group

therapy group my my first therapist I'm still in touch with her and this was a

long time ago but like I was literally stomping my feet like that's how much I

I and like the first um thing that we were supposed to do in group therapy was like say how we were

feeling or name an emotion and like I knew one which was either like happy

or I guess too happy or sad or like getting what I want or not getting what I want and I was in my late 20s at this

time so I I get you know I've been through a lot and I get how difficult it

is so I I know I mean I it's painful it's painful to look at and in my

opinion it usually starts with our parents um it's painful to look at that it's

painful to start peeling that back um but you know we're talking about the

root cause of disease and and in my opinion that's where it starts for most people is

um the definition that I learned is uh that's different than a lot of people

have heard is trauma um trauma is anything less than nurturing so for for many people they

when I say trauma and they're like well you know I haven't experienced violence or war or things like that well trauma

could be as simple as like coming home from school and and showing off your homework but your parents are not paying

attention that that can be trauma and that sets off the signal of I'm not good enough that shuts down your gut and

you're five years old and and you're 25 all of a sudden and you get diagnosed with Hashimoto's or lupus or and it it's

that it started as just trauma and and so to me

that's not everybody's story but um for many people it starts with that

shuts down the gut and then you've got a gut that's in Balance then you've got this toxic environment so then you're

getting leaky gut you're getting you're absorbing toxins your microbiomes imbalance then you start eating bad food

you introduce alcohol or um and and you know it

because it starts early I think in a lot of people and that digging is painful

so I get it does anybody listening definitely true definitely true so um

one of the things that I hear all the time and you probably do too is well I should just expect this because I'm

getting older whatever it may be so what are the kinds of things that we can just expect with age does that even play in

to any of this um I mean

for women I mean you can expect to you know eventually your body stops making estrogen and progesterone and that

that's normal um but I think for the stuff that you're kind

of talking about like you know for the people that are having you know whether it's like joint aches or headaches or

not sleeping well or you know they start getting rashes or you know for a lot of

you know that's the stuff that doesn't have to be normal in my opinion like you

know so those kind of symptoms there there's usually a reason why they start

um because they can start when you're five or they can start when you're 70 but

um you know the with men most men will their testosterone production will go

down but I I've tested men in their 60s and 70s and uh been so incredibly jealous I'm like how

is your testosterone it's not fair um so

um that's not I don't know I've seen enough men older that you know that's not necessary that your testosterone

will go low but um cholesterol you know that's something

that so many people are getting diagnosed with high cholesterol it doesn't have to happen so I would argue

that most of this stuff doesn't have to happen um that people are dealing with

I agree I've noticed that I just think it's a function of how long you've been on the planet because the planet is so

hot so toxic so you're gonna accumulate there's more time for possible damage there's more time for trauma there's more time for toxic overload and so I

found that in my practice usually the kids are so vital it's usually not that

hard to get kids to throw off any sort of you know toxic baggage and move

forward but for adults the older they are you know there's not always but there's usually more to unpeel so I can

yeah yeah so is there anything I have not asked you that you want to make sure that you

leave with our audience uh no I feel like we've hit some the a lot

of very very very high yield stuff I hope yeah absolutely so where can listeners go to learn more about you

um my website is the best place um it's doc Dash cause.com doc Dash k o

z.com um I have a in my books

um there's a link on my website but um they are unfunk your gut and get the

funk out and they're both funks are spelled with a c um and that's we used to have a saying

at my practice that we put the funk in functional medicine um so that's where the titles

um so my books are you know I've put my years of experience into my books and

and high yield things of of about all the stuff that I've mentioned um I have a Facebook page that's my name

Peter Kozlowski MD um and then an Instagram that is uh doc

underscore cause I'm not very active on social media but uh trying to be I guess

well I will link in the show notes to your website and to your books and thank you so much Dr Koz for all your time and

your wisdom really appreciate your time thank you so much for having me

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